Final post

[maxum]

Hi.
This is a log of what I just put on original Shadowdale play:

You think 'unicus, can you listen to me for a minute?'
::Macbeth:: 'just missed Uma. she said she would be back most likely later. she was just getting ready to get off a flight'
::Macbeth:: 'he is away atm. I think he wasn't feeling well earlier'
You think 'ok, it will be logged anyway'
You think 'i never asked anyone about dalemud, only shadowdale'
You think 'i asked unicus what it would take to get hosting rights for shadowdale'
You think 'he said contact uma or celestian'
You think 'i tried to contact both'
You think 'celestian said if it were up to him i could have a copy of the code but he couldnt find it'
You think 'i asked him if i could get level 60 on shadowdale, he was hesitant to discuss and then stopped emailing me'
You think 'i took that as a no'
You think 'uma never replied, even after i left voicemail on his home phone'
You think 'i asked unicus if mike wilsons giving me the code (i meant shadowale) was enough for him to agree i could host it'
You think 'unicus said yes'
You think 'thats when this project started'
You think 'right up until start day no one said it was a bad idea, or that i couldnt do it'
You think 'after launch this happens'
You think 'i dont see how i am wrong, but i acknowledge that others do'
You think 'i am about to promote kami to level 60 on both the new play and new build site and nuke'
You think 'i trust he will do what is right be both you and him'
You think 'i will nuke here, no biggy'
You think 'i will right a note of apology on the sdmud.probard site, and withdraw from the shadowdale facebook group'
You think 'there is no code, i cannot prove it, but i can send a log that it wont compile on my computer (19000 errors)'
You think 'there is no code on kami's machine, it is running on a precompiled'
You think 'i never downloaded anything from your family, or anythin that was not related to shadowdale in any way'
You think 'i cannot prove this'
You think 'i have accessed directoris on your server tha ti thought might have old shop files, or old zone info'
You think 'namely directories named uma, palin, hex, and probably one or two others'
You think 'even now i still have not had an email from anyone stating that i have stolen there code, which i did ask for'
You think 'i do not play shadowdale, do not want to play shadowdale, and was only doing this to help out old friends who did'
You think 'thats me done'

I would like to say again, that honestly, when Mike said he would give me the code if he could, and when Gandalf said this was ok to host it, I thought that meant I could host it. At no time did anyone (either on the forum or via private email) say I could not host the code, until after I announced the new play was live.
Even now, after asking, I still have not received any emails from anyone claiming to be the owner of the code, concerned that I stole it.
And yes Uma has emailed me, this was not one of the questions he asked.

I drew, and still draw no differences from talking about the code, or Shadowdale, compared to any other release versions, or Dalemud or whatever.

From the face of what has been said, I appear to be wrong, so that is a failing in me. I apologise for this.
I am sorry for the damage to the community I have caused, I am very sorry if I have caused any of the Parker family more stress.

I have already nuked on ShadowDale, the new playsite, and the new buildsite, as I said I would do above.

Luna: Thank you for the gift of CMud, I appreciate it. Sorry I won't be able to use it. As soon as I can I will transfer the money you paid for it back.

Kahil: I don't know man.

Uma: Well, now that we know you can email me, please do I will advise you of what and where the original code is at.

Edit: Umm, how do I delete? Unicus you have admin, please delete this account.

[unicus]

Actually Uma and I are starting to talk about what would be best as far as your mud.

[sexton]

It takes this kind of WITCH HUNT, to get the mud to JOLT forward?
Who would build on this precious build site now? We had 5 people playing, now we have 3?
I dont think anyone trusts anyone to move forward. High Gods dont trust other high gods.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE HAD PROBLEMS DEALING WITH PEOPLE TAKING CODE.
I don't know why this time is any different. I guess this time the person who wanted to move the mud forward actually was professional enough to make it happen and someone got scared.

I resent the fact that everyone had to attack him verbally so much. This is typical after 20 years of playing here.
I really dislike the fact that you let him get to a point then jerked his leash back so fast that he is gone forever and this dude did nothing but try.. even though maybe not the "right way".

I am not impressed, nor is anyone else with this bluster of action after the crap already hits the fan.

Throwing shit at the fan doesn't matter when noone is in the room to clean it up.

[sexton]

I mean. No one else is saying anything. Someone might as well stand up for the dude, so he doesnt feel like a TOTAL asshole/Thief HALFWAY ACROSS THE WORLD....

[sexton]

Keep the 30 bucks Maxum.
It was worth seeing everyone get bent out of shape, and seeing Lillith screech like a harpy.

[unicus]

No one led him on.
I have piles of emails. We continually went back and forth.
Me saying he can do fixes.
Him wanting to do changes
Me saying turn your code in thru me.
Him wanting direct access.

Him wanting Shadowdale
Me saying DaleMud and Havok

He kept asking the same things over and over with different wording. He finally posts TWO lines that he felt justified him. Then said "let one of the owners show up and tell me different", so Uma came on.

Things arent settled. Dont poison the works quite yet.

[sexton]

Please dont blame whatever happens henceforth on me or my attitude. You can do what you want. You always have. I have no way of poisoning something which I have no say over. I just like to stick up for people when it looks very one-sided. Even though I know there are two sides to every story.

[lestat]

Maxum - Please do not leave. Even if things are a confused mess right now, this is acting as a catalyst that might shock the mud to life. You had the energy and drive that we sorely need.

Please continue to be a part of the discussion.

[lestat]

Maxum - Please do not leave. Even if things are a confused mess right now, this is acting as a catalyst that might shock the mud to life. You had the energy and drive that we sorely need.

Please continue to be a part of the discussion.

[sexton]

I dont see why he would stay. After being called out as a THIEF and having unicus's family talk smack about him on the boards. He already spent a year bashing his head against the wall trying to actually have a conversation with the guy.
Maybe ragnaron or creto will come back and help. Not like they didnt move on just like unicus.. or did creto leave because of the air plane bug.. i forget.

[unicus]

You realize the "smack" and "unicus family" was a 4 word post by Lillith. You remember Lillith? Do you really think she is posting just because she is "unicus family"?

And as far as "banging his head trying to have a conversation" for a year I love that. He has had a TON of conversations with me and you know it. He continually told you about it.

Anyway, you dont need to understand. Maxum has said he would return if asked. The conversation is occurring.