The year looking back..., and forward

[lestat]

Agreed. I think there is support for this idea. Let's keep the conversation moving.

[maxum]

www.sdmud.thedragonscodpiece.com:81/

This project is underway, announcing the new website and forum at the above address.
I have to state that this project is not sanctioned by Unicus and is now never likely to be. It has already cost me my access to the Shadowdale server so any further updates to Shadowdale code there are extremely unlikely.
I am pushing for a Friday release of Play, so you guys don't lose too much in rent.
The current web domain is temporary while we sort some things out, mainly name and domain etc.

[unicus]

Well technically...
I am not thrilled that you downloaded the mud without permission. But going into other peoples directories on the server and downloading files from them is what got your access removed.

So far I am not slamming any doors. I am waiting to see the direction you take.

[qstodian]

Do you have a name for the mud and domain yet?

[maxum]

We have a temporary name, and a temporary domain for now.
The mud is just called SDmud, and the new playsite went live today.

sdmud.thedragonscodpiece.com 7777

For more information about the changes please visit our website:
sdmud.thedragonscodpiece.com:81

These domains will be updated when our new one arrives in the mail.
Please feel free to register on our new forums and check the information there.

[qstodian]

Waitaminute....
this isnt going to be NewHavons or whatever that other mud was?

Isnt SDmud a bit close?
We are going to have a Shadowdale Mud and a SDmud mud?

[maxum]

If I haven't made it clear in my facebook posts, I am really angry right now. Yes it is close to the original.
Actually, it is an exact copy of the original Shadowdale, including playerfiles from 3/11/13. That was the idea. A community supported copy of Shadowdale that had the ability to have new zones added, code changes and item balances can occur. Read this thread, it should make that clear.
No one posted any hint that they didn't support the idea, until now that it has happened some of Gandalf's relatives come out and make comments like the one above. Why did none of you mention any of your concerns about this prior to launch? Unless all you want to do is genuinely sabotage the project. Nice move.
I have had permission from the original authors to host the code for nearly a year. Gandalf has agreed that this gives me the right to host it.
I can post the emails with the headers intact and all that to prove this, but I am not going to because it wont stop you from doing what you want to do and what you want to say.

Why did I wait this long before hosting an alternate? Because I didn't want to host an alternate. Because I wanted to add to the 'original' and stop the possibility of a split. I don't think the community will survive an angry split, with some going to the alternate, and some not.(first post, this thread). This wasn't going to be an angry split, it was going to be a nice, friendly move. Hell, family is hosting it. But you guys stopped that nice and fast.

I am thinking about calling it Shadowdale now, watcha think?

[unicus]

I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

Wait, no. I also have ALL of the emails. And emails from the original authors.
NO ONE GAVE YOU SHADOWDALE CODE.
And as a separate topic, NO ONE GAVE YOU SHADOWDALE the mud.
All of the conversation was about running a new mud where you could make the changes you want without having to get approval as you kept demanding.

Nowhere did anyone give you the right to host another copy of Shadowdale with up to date player files AND MAKE YOURSELF A 60. I would be apologetic about any misunderstanding but I dont think there was one.

[unicus]

As far as "family members" I only see one post. And that was from my wife, the immortal Lillith.
Should be no surprise there. You ticked her off. She was one of your best bets for getting SD moving again.

I wont post what her demands are now. Come to think of it you would like them. She is telling me my vow is released.

[maxum]

Me -
If Mike Wilson was to say I could have a copy of the code would you agree I would have the right to host it?
If Bill Light was to say I could have a copy of the code would you agree I would have the right to host it?

Gandalf -
Yes and Yes

Mike Wilson -
I would have no issues giving you a copy if I still had it.

[unicus]

And as I told you in many emails, the release code is DaleMud. Ask for a new release.
NOT go ahead and download from someones directory. Do not say that anyone gave you the code. IF Cel had given you code that would be one thing but it did not mean go ahead and download it from Umas directory, and player files, and personal scripts/notes, and files from my sons directory, etc etc.

And yes I did say that if you get the code then you have the right to run it. But that does not mean you get to be SDmud. It means you get to be the new Havok. Do not say they gave you 60.

[Abbathor]

As much as I want to build new areas and see new changes happen, I can't abide thievery. I have deleted all my characters and immort off the new mud and will not be participating.